Mon 26 Jun 2006
The Beijing Tea Scam & Variations: Traveler Beware
Posted by Mark Baker under Beijing , Shanghai , Travel Tips[12] Comments
The following caveat was written by Roddy Flagg, owner and administrator of Chinese-Forums.com. It is being reprinted here with permission and as a “public service” reminder to appeal to common sense when traveling in Beijing, Shanghai, or anywhere else.
Roddy writes:
A friend of mine just got caught out by this while visiting Beijing, and I figured I’d write this up in the hope that it might save some others some hassle . . .
I’m sure these and variations are in operation in other cities in China and worldwide, and a general warning to be on your guard when you’re in tourist areas is always warranted, but here’s some details.
The Beijing Teahouse Scam
You are happily wandering around somewhere like Wangfujing or Tiananmen and a friendly English student starts chatting to you. He or she speaks very good English, is friendly and shows you around, maybe helps you buy a few gifts, and subsequently suggests you go for a cup of tea at a nice teahouse he / she knows. The teahouse will be very nice, you will have some very nice tea, but you will feel slightly disturbed by the fact that they served tea without letting you see a menu, or that the menu has no prices on. You will assume this is how you do things in China.When the bill comes it will be ridiculous. My mate got presented with one that was approaching a four-figure RMB sum, for a pot of tea. Even if there is a tea house in Beijing legitimately serving tea at that price, it sure as hell doesn’t pour without asking what you want first.
What happens now varies – some scream and shout, some yell for the police, some pay up meekly, even if it requires the use of foreign currency or a credit card because they haven’t got enough RMB on them.
Variations:
1) Art galleries. ‘Art students’ strike up a conversation and invite you to their gallery. You’ll see at best second rate art at top-rate prices, and will be lucky to avoid a high-pressure sales pitch. Spend your time at a real gallery. Real galleries, for reference, do not send English students out onto the streets pretending to be art students.
2) Bars. Seems to be more common in Shanghai, and uses pretty girls in too much make-up rather than innocent looking ‘English students’ in tracksuits. This is clearly because Shanghai attracts a lower-class of tourist, but that’s beside the point.In any case, you’ll be in danger of paying a lot more for something than you should do, and at the very least you’re going to waste your time.
How to avoid it: Sad to say, if you are in an area where there are a lot of tourists in China, then 99% of people who approach you want something, whether they are postcard sellers, tour touts, Mao watch merchants, or scam artists as described above. Do not go anywhere which will involve spending money – be it a teahouse, a gift shop, an art gallery or a restaurant – with these people. If you are convinced that someone who approached you while you were standing on a street corner with your upside-down map and a copy of the Lonely Planet is genuine, fine – but go to a place of your choosing, and laugh in the face of anyone who gives you something you didn’t order, or presents you a price-free menu.
You can read the follow-up discussion and more information about these types of traveler scams in China at Chinese-Forums.com. Our thanks to Roddy for the warning and permission to share it via The Chinese Outpost.
July 12th, 2006 at 4:13 am
Thankfully in China I was never caught in by any of those scams.
Did speak to someone in my hostel who had just arrived in Shanghai who had fallen for the tea scam. Some guys and girls had come up to them then half an hour after meeting they suggested they go to a tea ceremony. Got there and the guys said ‘we’re guys we will all pay for the girls so split it between us’ . They were told it was 35 RMB/cup and there was a handling fee for each cup. They weren’t thinking clearly or they would have seen that there is no way that each cup could have been 35 each as they had 6 cups and paid 400RMB each. I think something to note is also that lots of young people don’t like tea ceremonies as they think it’s rather an old thing to do. Or at least none of my chinese friends like them.
There are loads of other scams that affect foreigners in China. Another is the 2 menu thing where one is English and crazy prices and the chinese one is reasonable. I remember in Xi’an one restaurant which was not that good was charging 90RMB for main courses on the English menu so I asked for the Chinese. Eventually they brought it and we compared one thing which was 8 on the Chinese menu and 30 on the English menu. They then grabbed the menus off us and we walked out of there. Other restaurants when they saw I had found it out, were perfectly happy to let us have the Chinese price. I can’t read Chinese but they always have the Chinese next to the English for the waitresses and it’s just a case of cross-referencing. In lots of places it’s just a case of asking them to show you where one dish appears on the Chinese menu.
July 12th, 2006 at 7:02 pm
A lot more clever and creative, as far a scams go, than those going around China when I first got there in 1993. Back then, there were still two currencies in China, RenMinBi (RMB) and Foreign Exchange Currency (FEC), which we foreign experts were paid in.
RMB was the more fluid, and so people would stop us on the street with, “Hello, Change Money!?” They were willing to trade in dollars too, but after FEC was done away with, the payoff for the black market “Change Money” folks lessened somewhat.
Oh, and the scam part: Never happened to me, but they’d take a person’s FEC or USD, count out the RMB, then sleight-of-hand keep some of it back before handing the wad of bills over…and running away.
Still happens, no doubt, but surely less than before.
October 15th, 2007 at 6:36 am
I just got scammed last evening. Same old style: so called students walking along with you, taking you to a tea tasting shop and at the end pulling up 1000s of RMB bill. Didn’t realize I was being fleeced and paid only my part 575 RMB on Amex. Got back, googled, and figured the whole thing is a scam. So, went back to the same shop this evening along with my two chinese coleagues, we argued with them about their scam, threatened them we’ll report to the license authority and call the police. They got scared and returned my 575. We didn’t have to yell at them, just a threat at normal tone level. I’ll also dispute the credit card charge and if I am lucky, Amex will ding them even more. Bastards! they deserve it.
So, don’t feel stupid for falling for the scam and keep quite. Go back, preferably with a chinese friend, threaten them and get your money back.
January 1st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
I got back from a week in Beijing a few days ago, and in the time I was there, I was almost scammed at least a dozen times. I’m sure it has to do in part to the fact that I was in a lot of the touristy places and I was also travelling alone.
All of the scams involved either tea, art, or taxis, all of which I had read about prior to going there (thank God!), and so I was lucky to have avoided being scammed at all (though I’m sure I got ripped off at the market, though that’s another story).
My last day there, I was tired of people with fake smiles coming up to me to “practice their English,” so when it happened again I responded in French saying I didn’t speak English, and the girl started speaking in French! She said she also spoke Spanish. It’s a shame these people can’t get better work using those language skills…
April 19th, 2008 at 7:22 am
[...] I fell prey to one of the scam artists I read about on the web. Basically, it was the tea scam. We had also been approached by the art student scam [...]
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:39 pm
These ans several other scams are described (and some of them illustrated) here: http://www.yilongwei.com/tips/scam_archives.htm Reading about typical scams is not a guarantee that you won’t fall a victim of some new and “innovative” ways of swindling but at least you may fend off some most common ones…
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 am
Hello,
i went through exactly the same thing yesterday. 2 girls (aged around 28-30) on holidays from Shanghai approached me in Tiannemen Square. Very polite, friendly and actually helpful. I was heading back towards the shops and they walked with me. Showed me the shoe place that made shoes for the emperor + gave me the background, took me to a famous chinese medicine place and showed me all the remedies- but never tried selling me anything.
Then after an hour or so, we were all quite thirsty and the Tea place came into the story. Upstairs we go to the tea room, and upon reflection now it all seemed a little too easy.
We spend 2 hours up there tasting all different types of tea + learning what they are for and how to drink them. There were same nibblies and grapes as well.
Up to this point it had actually been an enjoyable few hours- very educational.
Both girls had received separate phone calls on their mobiles during our tea.
Then the bill arrives. 1680 yuan!
For 5 x 30ml pint size tea tastes (for 3 people)
Appreciating the experience I had offered to pay for them also. But i chose not to question the price at that stage for fear of being considered rude.
As everyone else mentioned, it didn’t sit right with me, so i did a little research and yes it was a BIG SCAM.
I contacted my Visa Company and will contest the charge.
Still not content, i decided to go back there the next day and cause a scene. Which i did. They denied everything initially.
Then i got my camera out and started to take photos, and i raised my voice.
This got their attention. They offered my 370 yuan back. I refused. I continued to raise my voice and make it known i was angry.
They lifted to 500yuan, then 1000 yuan.
I ended up with 1500yuan cash back which i was pleased with.
I will still continue with Visa so the Tea House won’t get that money either.
I will scam them back!
November 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 am
I have also experienced the art student scam and the tea scam. Both on the same day in january 2009!
We had arrived with my girlfriend to Beijing four days earlier and had not read anything about any scams, so we were very easy victims I think. So, we were walking on Jianguomennei Dajie near the Dongdan Metro station on our way to the Foreign Language Bookstore on Wangfujing Dajie, as two very friendly young girls and one boy came to us and wanted to chat a little because we were foreigners we thought. Of course we were happy to meet some local people, so we gladly had them walking with us towards the bookstore. As we chatted it turned out the three were studying traditional chinese art. They were on the way to their art exibition that was located in the corner of Jianguomennei Dajie and Wangfujing Dajie, which fitted our route perfectly, so they asked us to come and see their work. Of course we went.
We stepped in to a building which seemed like a nice hotel. We took the elevator to a highier floor. (can’t remember which floor). They let us in to a room full of nice traditional chinese paintings. Their teacher was also there, a male little older than the students, but not alot more than 30. All the three students presented their own pieces of art and we were really impressed! After the presentations their teacher showed us some of the techniques the paintings was made with and we were more and more impressed how talented this group of people was.
Now the teacher gently asked us which painting we liked the most. We really couldn’t decide, they were all so nice in their own way. He asked if we wanted to have a painting with us as a souvenir. We said we really couldn’t afford any of these paintings as we were on a thight budget and was travelling all the way to Thailand with train and bus. The teacher, still gently, said that we could work out a nice price for a painting together. We repeated that we don’t have the money, or room in our baggage for that matter, for this kind of things. Now the teacher stardet to sell the paintings a little harder as we started to move towards the door. At the same time one of the students went to the paintings near the door and started to talk about them again and try to sell them. We told them again and again that we are NOT interssested in buying any of these paintings. At this point we knew walking out from the room would have been the right thing to do, but we didn’t want to seem rude. So after about 15 minutes of hard selling and very much bargaining from us, we bought a painting of a Hutong for 200 yuan. The teacher continued to try and sell us other paintings also, but now we were done. We shook hands with all four and left the room and the buildig and felt really confused.
Now we continued to the bookstore and felt quite good about the experience. We had a new painting made by an art student we actually met. The price didn’t seem high either.
After our errends in the bookstore we split up for the rest of the day with my girlfriend.
I went to the Oriental plaza to have a look for some clothes and other stuff. As I was wandering around the plaza, minding my own bussines, up to me comes a friendly young boy, maybe 20-something, and ask if he can practise his english with me. He seemed friendly and I didn’t have any other company at the moment, so of course he could practise his english with me.
As we now walked together he explained that he studies english in the university of Beijing. He was wery interested in everything about me and my country (Finland) and Europe and the EU. He wanted to know everything. I actually enjoyed spending time with him.
After a while he suggested that we should sit down and have a tea somewhere after all this walking around in the plaza. I thought this was a great idea. I really was feeling tired after all the walking.
He said he knew a good place and took me there. It was actually located just beside the Foreign language bookstore, a few stores higher. He took me through a coffee shop to a dark room with a low wooden table and a few low wooden stools. On the table was all these tea articles, small cups and cans and stuff. It was really cosy actually.
Soon a young woman came in and started to talk in chinese about chinese tea and it’s effects on you at the same time as she was preparing the teas. My new friend translated everything she was saying to us. This was really fun I thought!
At this time I started to think about the price of this, but then I thought “this is China. Everrything is cheap in China” so I didn’t ask about the price.
So we tasted ten different sort of teas from these really small cups and during every different tea the woman explained it’s effect to us. A really nice experience I thought.
When all sorts were tasted and I was in a relaxed and a happy mood I asked for the bill. The woman went out from the room to the bar desk to make the bill. When she came back, she gave the bill to me and I was shocked! 1700 yuan! I told her this is a misunderstanding and that I don’t have this kind of money with me. She didn’t of course understand english and my new friend didn’t seem to get what I was saying. I went to the bar desk with the bill and asked the guy behind the desk what the deal is. He said I had to pay. I became really angry and started yelling. Now more and more chinese people came and demanded me to pay. Also my new friend. He said he did only have a few hundred yuan on his bank account. So he paid 500 yuan and said he have to eat noodels for the rest of the month. Now I felt that I didn’t have a choise but to pay the rest of the sum as all these chinese were pressuring me. So I payed.
When we left the building this “friend” still followed me. I was really angry at him and asked why he took me to this place even if he didn’t have the money to pay his own share. He just ignored my questions and my anger. He still just asked his silly questions about Finland and what my family does and things that couldn’t matter less. After a while I told him I want to be alone now. Then we shook hands and he went to another direction and I was boiling angry and walking back to our hostel.
Back in the hostel i met my girlfriend and it turned out that she had had exactly the same experience with a student from Xi’an in a tea house near the Forbidden city. She didn’t have to pay as much as me for the ceremony tho. And she got two bags of tea with her.
Later we went to the internet and found out these two were common scams in Beijing. We really felt like idiots after this day.
Anyway this was a lesson learnt the hard way and we didn’t get scammed for the rest of our journey (we think).
December 20th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Another scam to add. Be careful in a tourist location. e.g. Wangfujin. Always insist on choosing the place where YOU want to eat. There are girls who will take you to THEIR bar or restaurant. I experienced a girl saying would you like to go for a drink or to grab a bite to eat. The place is the same.. it was on Wangfujin street… the street becomes more quieter walking away from the subway and past a church. If they tell you to meet at a church. Becareful. You pick the place and location. And pick a place to eat which is famous e.g. beijing duck or KFC etc. Do not go to a dingy place.
I won’t post the girl’s number or email as they can easily be changed. But she could speak English fluently. Originally wanted to meet in Dongdan.
Being an idiot. I went there.
Then she said she wanted to meet Wangfujin.
If you hear that – alarm bells shoul start ringing. She said she was now wearing high heels and could no longer come and it was cold outside. In fact there are many shopping centres around… also she said i should catch a taxi. She could have easily caught one as a local she would be more familiar…
She said lets meet 1/2 way. First asking where I live. Then the place they want to meet is always dongdan or Wangfujin… it’s a total scam…
January 6th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
have come across all these art student and tea scams in beijing. Always turned them away, but once i was bored and decided to play along and spent some time with one of the “art student” girls who gave me a tour of tiananmen squre for about 45 minutes and then went to see the art. ended up buying a nice large painting for 100RMB. It was also different than all the ones you see in most of the shops (usually you see the same painting or print 1000 times) so i was quite pleased with it. of course at first the price was 500RMB but if you bargain you can get it to a more realistic price. So for the tour, painting, and killing an hour of a boring rainy day it was worth it.
January 23rd, 2010 at 4:54 am
Just been scammed in Wangfujin by a student. We went to a department store and had tea and didnt think any more about it until when the bill came RMB1480. I had no choice but pay and feel a real idiot. In order to get rid of her I told her that I would meet her for dinner and guess what I didnt. I first thought she was offering sex but only when the tea scam occured did I realise I had been well and truely scammed. Her phone number is 13552548780 so feel free to give her a call and tell her what to do with her tea. The worst thing about it was that I enjoyed her company, not in a sexual way but when you are on your own it is nice to have someone to talk to. My faith in human nature has now at an all time low and in future I may play them along and not succumb to the tea scam and just waste their time.
January 25th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
I’m starting to wish that this post could be made required reading anytime someone applies for a visa to visit China.
Sorry to hear about so many scamulous run-ins, folks!